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Re: Explanation of APL execution order

Postby Morten|Dyalog on Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:21 pm

Hi Dave, welcome "back"!

At the risk of starting an argument... In Norwegian, "Odd" and "Even" are both common names for boys.

Q: What should you name your first child?
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Re: Explanation of APL execution order

Postby Phil Last on Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:05 am

"first" has nothing to do with "one" nor "second" with "two", neither has anything to do with "zero" so I don't think you'll get us arguing about ⎕IO today.

But you didn't tell us that "Oddi" is in some contexts Norwegian for "third", including the third child, and I'm guessing that your "Even" is more to do with sameness or levelness than number.

So after consideration I think "after his/her paternal/maternal grandfather/grandmother" might be a good bet.
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Re: Explanation of APL execution order

Postby Morten|Dyalog on Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:29 pm

Phil Last wrote:"first" has nothing to do with "one"


Er... I beg to differ... And Wikipedia says: First or 1st is the ordinal form of the number one (#1). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First

Wikipedia also explains the origin of the names, what a fountain of information!

Even: Gift/Winner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Even_(given_name)
Odd: Sharp point or edge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odd_(name)

I did not know about "Oddi", nor can I find a reference to this on the internet - have you got one?
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Re: Explanation of APL execution order

Postby Phil Last on Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:31 pm

Wikipedia says: First or 1st is the ordinal form of the number one (#1). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First

You could have easily used my own: "first has nothing to do with one" as an example of the use of both words in the same sentence to prove their relatedness.

First is from Proto-Indo-European pro-ista pro: before or beyond; ista: superlative
Second is from PIE seku: following.

One is the second natural number being the successor to zero, the first.

For Oddi:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?all ... search=Odd
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Re: Explanation of APL execution order

Postby Morten|Dyalog on Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:24 pm

Phil Last wrote:One is the second natural number being the successor to zero, the


Apparently even this is not clear cut: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_number

Wikipedia wrote:Some authors begin the natural numbers with 0, corresponding to the non-negative integers 0, 1, 2, 3, …, whereas others start with 1, corresponding to the positive integers 1, 2, 3,"


Right... back to work :-)
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Re: Explanation of APL execution order

Postby Roger|Dyalog on Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:16 pm

Dave, I thought you might have finessed it by choosing "Minerva" as the name. (Minerva, Roman goddess of wisdom.)
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